In today’s pod, we cover PLL episodes 1.10 “Keep Your Friends Close” and 1.11 “Moments Later”! We discuss how much we love Camp Mona, Ashley’s unauthorized loan, Ali as a candy striper, why the patriarchy is okay with women playing field hockey, and the worst poem we’ve read in our entire lives.

Chickpea Recipe
Sports Corner With Cameron
Deepa’s Literary Analysis
  • Ezra’s appalling “B-26” poem manages to be ableist and possibly racist in addition to being terrible writing
Open page in a book that reads: EZRA FITZ B-26 It's a number. It's a song. It's a girl. Smooth. Pearl joy packed. Gold falafel, as through ice. It's four-thirty. Morning with Phone calls. It's deaf-mute. It's cheap. A foreign car. Maybe bingo. Lucky night? Something says [words cut off] ells bad. The subtitle over the image says, "It's a poem by Ezra Fitz."
Things We Referenced Related to PLL
  • Star Trek: The Wrath of Khan, in the context of the PLL episode “The Wrath of Kahn”
Things We Referenced Completely Unrelated to PLL
  • How to Get Away With Murder and knowing exactly where we are in time, unlike PLL
  • We recorded this months ago, the week that the Screen Actors Guild (SAG-AFTRA) announced their strike, but incredibly, SAG-AFTRA and the WGA are still on strike! Everyone should strike!  
Fashion Analysis

We talked about quite a few different outfits! Deepa’s favorite was Spencer’s belted blazer (which Cameron did successfully guess, so either Cameron knows Deepa too well, or Deepa is predictable…possibly both), while Cameron couldn’t decide between Hanna’s hospital pajamas and Ali’s iconic candy striper outfit

Wide shot of Alison wearing a red-and-white candy striper outfit
Wide shot of Alison wearing a red-and-white candy striper outfit
Hanna sitting up in a hospital bed, her arms folded over her chest, wearing pink silk pajamas with lacy edges on the sleeves and ruffles with a darker pink trim across the front
Hanna sitting up in a hospital bed, her arms folded over her chest, wearing pink silk pajamas with lacy edges on the sleeves and ruffles with a darker pink trim across the front
Emily, Spencer, and Hanna talking by a set of lockers in the school hallway. The focus is on Spencer, who is wearing a dark blue pinstriped blazer over a white ruffled shirt, with a thin brown belt around her waist over the blazer.
Emily, Spencer, and Hanna talking by a set of lockers in the school hallway. The focus is on Spencer, who is wearing a dark blue pinstriped blazer over a white ruffled shirt, with a thin brown belt around her waist over the blazer.

Meanwhile we both disliked what the Liars wore to Camp Mona: Cameron absolutely hated Emily’s butterfly shirt, while Deepa couldn’t stand combo of Aria’s different pieces, particularly the beanie

Wide shot of Aria and Emily coming out of the hair salon at Camp Mona. Both of them have had blow-outs that make their hair look huge. Emily is wearing a three-quarter sleeve top with gray sleeves, a black torso, and large butterflies embroidered on it in purple, yellow, and gray, with dark gray capri cargo pants and sneakers. Aria is wearing a black graphic t-shirt covered with a gray vest and a wide waist belt over the vest that appears to have giraffes on it, with green capri pants and calf-length boots.
Wide shot of Aria and Emily coming out of the hair salon at Camp Mona. Both of them have had blow-outs that make their hair look huge. Emily is wearing a three-quarter sleeve top with gray sleeves, a black torso, and large butterflies embroidered on it in purple, yellow, and gray, with dark gray capri cargo pants and sneakers. Aria is wearing a black graphic t-shirt covered with a gray vest and a wide waist belt over the vest that appears to have giraffes on it, with green capri pants and calf-length boots.
Emily and Maya standing in Emily’s bedroom, looking nervous. The focus is on Emily, who is wearing the same butterfly shirt.
Emily and Maya standing in Emily’s bedroom, looking nervous. The focus is on Emily, who is wearing the same butterfly shirt.
Close-up of Aria and Hanna in Spencer’s kitchen. The focus is on Aria; she is wearing the same outfit as in the last photo but now with a maroon beanie.
Close-up of Aria and Hanna in Spencer’s kitchen. The focus is on Aria; she is wearing the same outfit as in the last photo but now with a maroon beanie.

As a bonus, if you want to know how Cameron dressed in high school, it may have been something like this (except she would never wear that necklace)

Aria standing in the music room in front of a keyboard, her arms folded over her chest and her expression concerned. She is wearing a magenta tank top with lace at the top, covered by a cheetah print cardigan, with belted black jorts and fishnet tights underneath, as well as a necklace with leather strips hanging off it.

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Aria on the steps of the school with Spencer and Hanna. Aria looks shocked and is wearing an all burgundy outfit: a dress that has three-quarter sleeves and is sheer at the top with a vertical striped slip underneath, while the skirt portion is pleated. She’s also wearing a burgundy headband with a bow and a long necklace with black and burgundy beads.

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Spencer talking to Hanna (whose back is to the screen) at school. We can only see her from the chest up, and she’s wearing round earrings with her hair in a half-updo.

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Close-up on Hanna, who is sitting on a couch looking to the side, while Emily is kneeling down behind the couch, leaning her arms on the couch, looking at Hanna. Hanna’s hair is side-parted and partially braided across the top of her head, but left loose at the ends.

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Emily is sitting at a table in the cafeteria, looking concerned. She is wearing a green long-sleeved top and white-ish vest, but more importantly, she is wearing a knitted gray/off-white beanie that is huge.

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Hanna standing at a podium at Ali’s memorial service. We can see Hanna from the waist up, and she is wearing a blue dress with a black belted blazer over it and two necklaces, one long and one short.

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